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香港
日期: 2005年9月18日
时间: 上午10時
地点九龍塘
又一城pacific coffee(太平洋咖啡)

經過千呼萬喚2005年香港維基人聚會終於在9月18日中秋佳節、於九龍塘又一城的Pacific Coffee舉行。

參加的維基人[编辑]

討論議題[编辑]

  1. 廣東話維基百科
  2. 如何推廣在香港維基
  3. 中英文維基百科在翻譯等方面合作

經過[编辑]

開始時,大家都對參與聚會的香港維基人的年齡感到興趣。結論是與會者的平均年齡比其他維基百科一般用戶的要低——聚會中,有三個是中學生、其餘四個是大學生。

香港維基人首先討論的話題當然就是廣東話維基百科了。與會者一致認為在一般社交、文藝表演、報紙專欄等場合使用廣東話是相當合理和值得鼓勵的事,不過以廣東話編寫維基百科還不是時候。

討論中以下話題尤其矚目:

  • 中文維基百科的現狀。儘管中文維基的條目總數已經超過4萬條,但一般同意現在條目的質量還比較參差。中文維基裏小作品所佔的數量是不尋常的高,Mcyjerry還指出這些條目還很缺乏內容。與會者認為與其讓中文維基四分五裂,倒不如一起努力改善現在中文維基的條目。
  • 大學裏使用廣東話的情況。Mcyjerry和Lorenzarius是香港中文大學的學生,他們解釋說理科和醫科課程都是以英語授課,而不是用粵語教授;用了粵語反而會變得很難懂。他們解釋了箇中的原因,不過中文大學開辦的其中一個目的,就是要在當時還是英國殖民地的香港,推廣中文的使用。

Mcyjerry簡單地概述了現在關於香港的條目的狀況,也介紹了各種可供使用的分類模板。

Fuzheado介紹了中文維基的最新統計數據,指中文維基條目的數量在2004年6月至11、12月期間,增長數目有暫時停滯不前的跡象。

LilAlex、Carlsmith、Lorenzarius、石還有Fuzheado在聚會後去了利華超級三文治店(Oliver's Super Sandwiches)吃午飯。

暫時計劃在2006年之前再次舉辦香港維基人聚會。一般認為九龍是合適的聚會地,並期待會有更多人來參加。

聚會照片[编辑]

Wikipedians

出席者(左至右排序):Little AlexFuzheadoMcyjerryCarlsmithW.F. SiuLorenzarius、及北京新聞工作者Susanjin。照片由上海來的Lu Ye拍攝。CathyMa有事先走了。

English version[编辑]

First, it was a young crowd and we talked about the age of the average Chinese language Wikipedian. We surmised it is quite a bit lower than most other Wikipedias since most folks are college aged or close to it. In our group - three in secondary school, four in college/grad school.

Obviously, one of the biggest issues was Cantonese Wikipedia. After discussing it for a while, there was consensus (in fact unanimity) that though there is legitimate and desirable use for vernacular written Cantonese in casual use, arts, film, newspaper columns and the like, the conclusion about Cantonese Wikipedia was - "not at this time."

Several things stood out:

  • Current state of Chinese Wikipedia. There was agreement that the general quality of the average article in Chinese Wikipedia is relatively poor, even though it has 40,000+ articles. The recent stats on "short articles" showed zh: contained unusually high number of them, and empirically Mcyjerry made the point that they are generally lacking in content. Folks felt that it was more important to shore up the existing zh: Wikipedia instead of splitting the effort.
  • Universities and Cantonese use. Mcyjerry and Lorenzarius, students at Chinese University of Hong Kong explained that their science and medicine programmes were not taught in Cantonese but in English instead, and if they were it would be confusing. They can elaborate more as to why, but Chinese University was setup to promote Chinese education in a (then) British Colony.

Mcyjerry gave a quick tour of the Hong Kong articles, and showed the templates used for different topics.

Fuzheado showed the latest statistics, and how the growth of zh: didn't bounce back from the June 2004 block until Nov/Dec that year.

LilAlex, Carlsmith, Lorenzarius, Shek and Fuzheado went to lunch at Oliver's Super Sandwiches.

The plan is to perhaps meetup again before the end of the year. Kowloon is the preferred location, and hope to get others to come.

聚後感言[编辑]

Hello, I am novacatz from the English wikipedia. I would appreciate if someone would leave a note on my talk page for the next meet up of this nature. 210.177.242.221 03:35 2005年10月12日 (UTC)


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