用户:R96340/没有删除的理由
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本页简而言之:“没有删除的理由”这种说法仅仅是在没有引用方针指引的状况下批评删除提案是的合理性,而非“我反对提案者的理据”。 |
在存废讨论里,常常有人会以“没有删除的理由”当理据支持保留-这种说法是没什么帮助的。
情境模拟
[编辑]爱丽丝,一个激进的删除主义者,看到了一篇她认为不应该存在的条目。我们在此假设她认为这个条目没有关注度。她将此条目提报到存废讨论,引用通用关注度指引,并指出上述条目不符合指引的理据。
接着我们来看鲍伯的情况。作为一个有一定经验的维基人及一积极的包容主义者,他在条目里引用几条来源,然后在页面存废讨论写上一句“不存在删除的理由。”作为理据支持保留这篇条目。
爱丽丝稍后看见这段文字,且感到有些烦躁。“当然有删除的理由!”她回应,“你觉得我是那种没理由地提删东西的傻瓜吗?”
鲍伯可能是对的,他的来源可能完善地支持了条目的关注度,但由于他与爱丽丝制造了不必要的对立,他已让爱丽丝打消了善意沟通的念头。存废讨论 Bob may even be right. His sources may thoroughly prove the article's case. But by needlessly antagonizing Alice's nomination, he has encouraged her to respond in kind. The discussion is thus likely to devolve into an adversarial back-and-forth over whether his sources are any good. At the end of the whole process, an admin will have to read through their whole diatribe and figure out who's right, or just slap a no consensus on the discussion and walk away.
Obviously, this kind of argument happens all the time, with or without this phrase. But it's important to remember that the person on the other side of an argument probably thinks their reasons for deletion (or keeping) are perfectly valid. Insinuating that they don't accomplishes nothing and may unnecessarily polarize the discussion.