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J.D.并非法学博士学位，这是每个美国律师皆知道的事，美国一大堆念J.D.的律师并不会被称为博士，在美国一个学生念完学士学位后又再修两三个学士学位都可以，并非有学士学位再念书就算研究生，也不是有doctor名称就算博士。122.123.35.121 (留言) 2008年7月24日 (四) 17:11 (UTC)[回复]

Thanks for your input. This page in Chinese language corresponds exclusively to the American law degree "Juris Doctor". Of course JD is not “法学博士”。In the American context, “法学博士”is JSD, or SJD, which is discussed in another page. I have directed the material related to “法学博士” to that page. And there are separate pages on LLM, as well as legal education and law degrees in Mainland China, Hong Kong and Taiwan.

Wikipedia is meant for knowledgeable people in the world to contribute in those areas they specialize in. That principle maximizes the accumulation of human knowledge. Therefore, we should let those with JSD/SJD to edit the "法学博士" page, and those with JD to edit this page, because they are the best people in the know. Those educated in the US, mainland China, Hong Kong or Taiwan, respectively, should also self-consciously limit their contributions to their own area of expertise. Sabotage does not help the accumulation of human knowledge and can only incite resentment and intolerance. This is especially the case as we are students of law and supposed to adhere to nothing but reason.

As for whether JD is a doctorate, enough debates have transpired in the past. Debates on that topic routinely get overheated and quickly go down the road from displeasure to mutual hatred, rather than deeper understanding. It's all about self-serving biases and let's admit that. Wikipedia is about established knowledge and not a place to engage in emotion-charged or even nasty debate.

That said, the commonly accepted perception about what is a JD, at least in the United States, is laid out unequivocally in the first sentence of the English entry of "Juris Doctor": Juris Doctor (abbreviated J.D. or JD, from the Latin, Teacher of Law) is a first professional[2] graduate degree[3] and professional doctorate[4] in law. And there is an entire section dwelling on that topic: "Debates about academic status". It is well-written and adequately buttressed.

Let's not debate without learning what has already been debated in the past. That's just a waste of time. We don't wanna be the Dalai Lama and the CCP either.

How about using the name "学士后法学士" for US J.D. and "学士后医学士" for US M.D.?

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祝编安。—InternetArchiveBot (报告软件缺陷) 2018年7月31日 (二) 16:51 (UTC)[回复]

为何无任何编辑理由退回Jksen的三次不同编辑

@45.8.19.196@45.8.19.226@76.37.148.128: 这三个IP应该都是@USCIS CN你本人吧，请问为何退回我的编辑? 也没有附上任何理由。有哪边写错或争议的可以讨论，也说过国际教育标准分类法的内容我一直都有附上参考来源，美国JD就国际教育标准分类法就是被区分在硕士等级，直接无视参考来源退回删掉你不喜欢的立场实在是很不行捏。--Jksen（留言） 2024年8月12日 (一) 13:29 (UTC)[回复]

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Express VPN IP 188.213.202.104: 你违反维基百科:不要诉诸法律威胁，只会诉诸法律威胁而不就编辑内容讨论出双方都能接受的结果，只有一昧威胁对方照你的方式做，完全违反维基百科的精神。维基百科也不是让你宣传或维护你的利益或立场，请参考维基百科:维基百科不是什么。

另外我说的都是事实，在维基百科上说明事实理所当然，我附上的参考来源档案也都有写上这事实，你去打开美国的那个Excel搜寻juris doctor就可以看到，再打开其中一个参考来源PDF档也会发现在硕士文件里确实是把美国First-professional degree programmes列在其中，你搜寻就会发现。

有疑虑你可以去询问联合国教育、科学及文化组织（UNESCO）关于国际教育标准分类法他们为何制定，这都是他们官方网的文件，你可以跟他们说你们官网的文件造成你对我说词所谓的“学位抹黑行为”，看他们有什么看法。事实上你用英文跟中文去询问ChatGPT跟Claude说，美国JD在国际教育标准分类法是哪个等级，都会回答你是硕士等级，连AI都不会出错，毫无争议。Jksen（留言） 2024年8月12日 (一) 19:41 (UTC)[回复]